What’s the weight on the newest batteries?
Hello @Pdwhite
Based in Europe, Portugal, any news for future these batteries available around Europe?
Asking because from US to Portugal the custom fees will be something crazy
When I say batteries, a conversion electric kit will be great also
Ya we do have a conversion kit here Electric Motor Conversion Kit SP140 V2 | OpenPPG
For the new battery, they should be shipping here in about 2 weeks. Send in an email to Info@openppg.com to get an estimate for customs costs.
What does Canbus buy you?
Is it just that you need some way to talk to the BMS and this is what yours happens to provide, or is there some value to the whole CAN bus infrastructure, even for a vehicle with so few electronic gadgets?
(Battery, Motor, controller, ESC, throttle – am I missing any? Do any but the BMS and central controller actually use CAN?)
Yes it’s used for basic communication and that could be done with other methods like UART and right now there are really only 3 components that need to talk to each other the ESC, BMS and the hand controller.
So you might be able to get away with another communication method but once more battery packs are added in the system along with other systems it’s starts to be worth the extra complexity of CAN bus (UAVCan). So being able to update the ESC through the hand controller and also just moving away from PWM for throttle control and just doing all control through CAN makes the system more resilient to noise for increased reliability.
Wanted to update this thread with the video of the new 4.8kWh battery real flight time test, which can be seen here-
Looking into the ozone viper 6, what size are you flying?
Just finished my 1st flight with the 4.8KWh battery :
62min - 39km - max height gain : 600m
started with fully charged battery, landed with 8%
and this with :
ozon spider 3 - 26 , my weight : 76kg
You can prolly do better
Got 62min with a fully trimmed in Sirocco 3 26m (its a tad more efficient compared to Spyder3)
my weight is 75kg Battery is the old 4kWh and I was really gentle on the throttle to get this time.
Hi Paul. Nice video. Give us the stats please…
(like wing size and make, all-up weight, battery cells used and the way you connected them)
For some of us that is important. Battery technology is improving fast. I think you should offer the option to buy a battery pack but without any batteries installed. Some of us are good and have the knowledge to building our own packs. By letting the “private sector” develop the battery pack, you and everybody else, will profit too! For whatever reason, right now in the US battery cells are more expensive than in some other countries
Im 190lbs and fly a mojo pwr 2 28m.
Im very new and my longest flight was yesterday, 54 minutes in perfect air. I landed and it was still reading 21%
That is because you are only 190 lbs and fly such a large wing! Is it even safe to take off without stalling? At full power your AoA will be very close to the stall point even if your hands are all up…
I have no idea what youre talking about. The PPG weight range for that wing is 95-150kg. I fly at 130kg? (190lbs me, 81lbs sp140, 20lbs wing + other gear)
I also go paragliding on this wing at 110kg. Never had an issue.
So I finally got to fly til the battery ran out. I got 67 minutes.
Mojopwr2 28M. Took off from 1000ft elevation. 190lb pilot.
I was under the impression you fly a tandem wing… You are good. I talk out of experience. Some 12 or 14 years ago, I posted a short video on YouTube. I can’t remember exactly where and when I took it. The camera was of bad quality and back than I though I was forced to land (a few seconds after taking off), because of turbulence. Yes, there was turbulence but in reality the turbulence was just enough to push the wing in a deep stall
I was flying a 95kg to 135kg rated wing (paragliding only) at 105kg. Yes, still within the range but it was a EN A rated wing. Later I figured out, a large EN A wing is safe overall but not safe if you are near the minimum weight rage, your trims fully closed and taking off in turbulent air…
I just watched the video again. There isn’t much to see other than having issues to stabilise the wing over my head, before going full power… I see the wing started to recover, just before touching down Back than, the Icaro Cyber 4 was only used for paragliding and not certified for paramotor. I can’t even remember which engine exactly I had on my back. At that time I had 3
I bought a used wing from aviator, the one trim doesnt hold, so i just fly with trims completely out the entire time. Theyre like 2 inch trims and the wing flies so slow it really dont matter. Im gonna move to a roadster 4 in a bit, so it will be interedting to see how much flight time i lose. Im also quickly learning, the way you fly affects time the most. If i feather the throttle into the wind to gain altitude, i think ill easily get the 80minutes. Only issue is, who wants to fly like that? The flight time has only been an issue for me once. I missed out on an XC trip because i didnt have the range, but overall, im very happy flying for an hour.
After 12 flights with the new battery, it’s looking like I could get 1h30min-1h40min with the 4.8kWh V2.5 pack as I lose about 1% per minute.
My longest flight was 60min and the controller showed 47% after landing (BMS showed 33%). Yesterday’s flight was 52min and I landed with 52% (BMS said 43%).
I fly in Sport Mode, with the 2-blade 140cm e-prop, a 22.6m Mojo6, no speedbar, and an all up weight just shy of 105kg*.
Level flight is achieved at around 3kW as seen in this clip where I’m climbing at 2.8kW.
*edit: corrected weight from 100kg to 105kg
just shy of 100 kg all up. whats weight of paramoter plus reserve and battery and all
Actually, I’ve just weighed everything and I’m now slightly over 100kg:
I fly without a reserve.
The new 4.8kwh battery is 22.5kg (the old battery is 20.5kg), the motor & harness are 12.5kg and the wing is 4.9kg. I was 60kg when I started flying the SP140, but if I’m now 65kg (clothed), that brings me to almost 105kg with the new battery.
I would only have been shy of 100kg back when I started flying the V1 battery
ok make sense the flight time. i am 75 kg clothes. flyvreserve weight is 2.6 kg. How are you handling landing in nil wind- lots of kg versus you size. thinkikg knee and back load